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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 29, 2007 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

not naming names .... but i will say primus sucks

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2007 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Hmmm--good point; suppose though, that you are right in that the use of those organics wouldn't necessarily contradict the "wholistic health nut" (in a good way) approach...

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Nov 29, 2007 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Primus sucks?

That is more ludicrous than anthything tito has ever posted. I am deleting the spring break performance on mtv where mr claypool was wearing a dead t shirt. Just another example of musical snobbery, primus isn't britney spears or gwar for christ's sake, they play instruments and les claypool is an inovative and devastating bass player. How dare you...

I knew I should have stayed clear of this place, bad memories and petty fights and extreme misenterpretations of entire genres of music over decades, imagine the loss of art appreciation that cannot be recovered?

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Poster: stealyourwife Date: Mar 21, 2010 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

lol, If you say "Primus sucks" you're expressing OLD SCHOOL LOVE for the band...relax dude.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 29, 2007 5:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Yep, Primus Sucks. Suck on This!


for the toughguy:

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=165076

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2007-11-30 01:18:40

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Poster: SactownTom Date: Nov 30, 2007 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Hey Bluedevil--I caught the reference. I remember seeing Primus at the old Berkeley Square in the late 80's. I recall the crowd chanting "Primus sucks, Primus sucks". Les blew my mind...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 10:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

And Suck on This was the first album - live in Berkeley. Les would always, and still to this day, intoduce band by saying "We're Primus and we suck". That's how chants started - Primus sucks, Primus sucks.

And the first Primus drummer? A lad by the name of Jay Lane. Hence, the reference to same. Not sure what Jay does these days... is he still with Alphabet Soup?

Herb would later step in and be on first recordings/tours, while Brain would later fill that stop before Herb came back in fold. Brain wisely left the ne GNR crew around same time as Buckethead. (Of course, Les, Brain and Buckethead played with Bernie Worrell, while Brain and Bucket both spent time together in Praxis (the incomparable Bill Laswell). At time Primus really started up, Brain was drumming in the Limbomaniacs.
Not to mention that Jay, Dave Ellis, Charlie Hunter [who was in Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy with Michael Franti], and all the rest of the crazy crew in bay area grew up playing together. In fact, Les learned to play bass while Kirk Hammett learned guitar and Mike (Puffy) Bordin learned to play drums when growing up in east bay. Their first band did metal versions of Neil Young tunes. Kirk went on to be in some band, while Puffy drummed for another little band by the name of Faith No More and then on to some work with Ozzy. Les just stayed Les and worked with everyone under the sun. Check out Electric Apricot. It's a riot - as Weir, Warren, and Mike Gordon will attest.

Did I digress?

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Poster: SactownTom Date: Nov 30, 2007 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Dude--Excellent late 80's Bay Area local music scene history. I bow to the Master! I loved the Limbomaniacs! There was that whole scene of "world beat" bands--mostly centered around Berkeley. My memory fails me on most of the bands, especially the very leftist band headed by Matt somebody. Damn--I can't for the life of me remember their name--but I dug them a lot. Saw many shows by said "world beat" bands at Ashkenaz and Berkeley Square and the Kennel Club in SF, including Disposable Heroes (who opened my ears to the whole hip hop scene--went from them to Public Enemy--although I was already into the reggae "toasting" style, so it wasn't such a big leap).
BlueDevil, you never cease to amaze me with your musical info--you were around some great scenes (GD/Bay Area, Athens, Asheville) My guess is we were at many shows together.
As someone once said said, "Live music is better, bumper stickers should be issued". I bet you can easily name the source of that quote.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

That someone - wasn't that on the Reactor album?

We were DEFINITELY at some shows together - Ashkenaz, Berkeley Square, Kennel Club - ever do Sushi Sunday at the Nightbreak on the Haight (or I-Beam shows?). Nightbreak Sunday would feature Kirk with Primus and Trouz, Primus road manager, singing PE's "She Watches Channel Zero" while Kirk did what Kirk does.
Ever see Ted Zeppelin - was the Limbos doing Nugent/Zeppelin. Jason Bonham showed up once and sat in. Pretty crazy.
Or Brainles Gore? Was Brain on drums, Les on bass, and Joe Gore (Big City, later PJ Harvey and writes for Guitar Player) on guitar. The same guy that has always managed Les also managed the Limbomaniacs and Big City (with Matt Callahan); I met him first day of college because he was wearing a King Crimson t-shirt so pretty weird for both of us when Belew was playing Thela Hun Ginjet with Les. I used to go to lots of Limbo's parties in the day. For the second, but never released album, they were working with Bootsy (also a part of praxis), Bernie, and a bunch of the p-funk guys.

So, we'll DEFINITELY at some point go to a show together in the future. Sorry no park this year for Hardly Strictly, but something soon. And the invite down here remains open.

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Poster: SactownTom Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Dude--Matt Callahan! But it wasn't Big City I was thinking about--although they were a lot of fun too!
Just googled Mat (one T) Callahan--his band was The Looters--probably my fave of that scene--total pinko dance music. Remember the Viet Cong flag at Ashkenaz? Never did Sushi Sundays--but i do remember Ted Zeppelin (never saw them, tho) The Nightbreak, the I-Beam (I saw the Chili Peppers there in 88 when they played in their socks)--oh man I'm tripping down memory lane. Oh to be in my late 20's and seeing all that great music in the Bay again. God that was fun! There was always something to do when the GD were on the road, or there weren't any JGB shows. So many clubs, so many bands, so many good times!

Edit: I believe it was Hawks and Doves Union Man

This post was modified by SactownTom on 2007-11-30 19:06:33

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Hawks and Doves - you're right. I stand corrected. It's pretty hard to keep up with that catalog, especially now that's he opening up the vaults...

Yea, definitely dredging up some memories now...

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Poster: SactownTom Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:16am
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Yes --Old NY is prolific as well as brilliant, definitely a nice combo. Gotta get to work--nice reminiscing with you, BD. We should hook up at the next Mermen show at Moe's--keep your eyes open and hit me when you see them coming around.
Tom

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

deal - i'm procrastinating. back at it....

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

You are thinking of THE LOOTERS - also Matt. Same manager as Primus and Limbos. Did some crazy shows way back in day with Bad Brains. My pal would sit on phone and pitch was always, "they're the only US band to play Nicaragua - twice." (Of course, I think Bruce Cockburn lived there for awhile, and besides, he's Canadian and no one ever covers his tunes...)

Found this on Matt now -
http://www.brokenarrowrecords.com/artists.php?artist_id=2

[nice tie in back to Neil with name of records...]

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2007-11-30 18:58:11

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Poster: izit420 Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

jerry covered waiting for a miracle, isn't that a bruce cockburn song?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

Yep. Nice catch - that's why I dropped the reference. And I know Bob played some shows with Bruce several years back; may have been for Amnesty or some other group (landmines?); can't recall.

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Poster: izit420 Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

i might be wrong it could have been written by leonard cohen?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 30, 2007 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: gdkid and other one-time posters

sorry, but I always think of this every time someone mentions leonard cohen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na4-3Z8JpNE&eurl=http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/11/lunch_hour_veg_231.html

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